Comments on: Manga Beat 07: Claymore vol 1. http://wayofthegeek.org/2007/12/manga-beat-07-claymore-vol-1/ Your One Stop Geek Shop Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:56:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Caldi-Chan http://wayofthegeek.org/2007/12/manga-beat-07-claymore-vol-1/#comment-3992 Caldi-Chan Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:34:14 +0000 http://wayofthegeek.org/2007/12/manga-beat-07-claymore-vol-1/#comment-3992 Now see, If he had stuck to one format I'd have no problem with it. Flesh it out, and stick to one style. If he was going to use realistic, fine, but if that's the case use a realistic style on the entire face. If he was going for anime-ish or Manga style, do it that way. What we have here is a bad combination and it isn't even a completed combination. Note that eyes are just circles. In most manga they have detail of some form, even at that distance on the faces. The fight scenes between Clare and Demons did use some shading to indicate speed and stuff by the use of lines but in some places it was over used, while shading on faces were non existent except for the eyes, and noses looked too realistic at the same time. I remember when reading this, and writing this my friend Swan was defending the art so much that he actually got mad at me, when I told it as I saw it. Half finished, switching from realistic to anime/manga style, and just over all bad. The excuse/ reason for the feeling of bad half finished art is that the creator was rushed, and therefore did it on pourpose. (?) I cannot confirm it however, but if that's the case I am curious how his other Manga Angel Densetsu looks. Looking at the cover it seems to be a very similar style. Now see, If he had stuck to one format I’d have no problem with it. Flesh it out, and stick to one style. If he was going to use realistic, fine, but if that’s the case use a realistic style on the entire face.

If he was going for anime-ish or Manga style, do it that way. What we have here is a bad combination and it isn’t even a completed combination.

Note that eyes are just circles. In most manga they have detail of some form, even at that distance on the faces.
The fight scenes between Clare and Demons did use some shading to indicate speed and stuff by the use of lines but in some places it was over used, while shading on faces were non existent except for the eyes, and noses looked too realistic at the same time.

I remember when reading this, and writing this my friend Swan was defending the art so much that he actually got mad at me, when I told it as I saw it.

Half finished, switching from realistic to anime/manga style, and just over all bad.

The excuse/ reason for the feeling of bad half finished art is that the creator was rushed, and therefore did it on pourpose. (?)
I cannot confirm it however, but if that’s the case I am curious how his other Manga Angel Densetsu looks.
Looking at the cover it seems to be a very similar style.

]]> By: Devin de Gruyl http://wayofthegeek.org/2007/12/manga-beat-07-claymore-vol-1/#comment-3984 Devin de Gruyl Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:13:44 +0000 http://wayofthegeek.org/2007/12/manga-beat-07-claymore-vol-1/#comment-3984 Yeah, that sounds anime-ish all right... the trend in anime for the last 10-15 years has been to make noses as minimalistic as possible, to the point they all but disappear in a frontal view. They're still visible in profile and from an off-center perspective, but if you're looking dead-on at someone, their noses are just a simple comma-shaped line at most. That's okay for anime, but manga art is <i>supposed</i> to look more detailed than something designed for animation purposes. This just looks like any number of fanmade 4-koma I've seen over the years (and this is not a compliment). I hope he <i>does</i> improve in later volumes, though... Yeah, that sounds anime-ish all right… the trend in anime for the last 10-15 years has been to make noses as minimalistic as possible, to the point they all but disappear in a frontal view. They’re still visible in profile and from an off-center perspective, but if you’re looking dead-on at someone, their noses are just a simple comma-shaped line at most.

That’s okay for anime, but manga art is supposed to look more detailed than something designed for animation purposes. This just looks like any number of fanmade 4-koma I’ve seen over the years (and this is not a compliment).

I hope he does improve in later volumes, though…

]]> By: Caldi-Chan http://wayofthegeek.org/2007/12/manga-beat-07-claymore-vol-1/#comment-3981 Caldi-Chan Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:00:11 +0000 http://wayofthegeek.org/2007/12/manga-beat-07-claymore-vol-1/#comment-3981 The interior art is of the kid who loses his whole family to the demon that was in the first town. I forgot his name, but he was the main reason why the art felt half finished to me. Several scenes with him in it were minimal in the art department. Noses can be seen on a side profile, but frontal view, usually has a tiny dot, or no nose at all. It irks me though. According to the Claymore community, the first few volumes are like this, but later on the artist applies his manga ka skills and fleshes it out more. The interior art is of the kid who loses his whole family to the demon that was in the first town. I forgot his name, but he was the main reason why the art felt half finished to me. Several scenes with him in it were minimal in the art department. Noses can be seen on a side profile, but frontal view, usually has a tiny dot, or no nose at all.

It irks me though.
According to the Claymore community, the first few volumes are like this, but later on the artist applies his manga ka skills and fleshes it out more.

]]> By: Devin de Gruyl http://wayofthegeek.org/2007/12/manga-beat-07-claymore-vol-1/#comment-3980 Devin de Gruyl Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:57:20 +0000 http://wayofthegeek.org/2007/12/manga-beat-07-claymore-vol-1/#comment-3980 Hmm... The one color piece you have here doesn't look <i>too</i> bad; I've definitely seen far worse. The sample interior artwork, however... <i>yikes</i>. It's a good thing her(?) mouth is so big, because the apparent lack of a nose would make breathing quite difficult otherwise! Sounds like your basic, stereotypical demon-slayer storyline to me. Which is fine as far as it goes, but the market seems fairly saturated with such stories of late... Hmm… The one color piece you have here doesn’t look too bad; I’ve definitely seen far worse. The sample interior artwork, however… yikes. It’s a good thing her(?) mouth is so big, because the apparent lack of a nose would make breathing quite difficult otherwise!

Sounds like your basic, stereotypical demon-slayer storyline to me. Which is fine as far as it goes, but the market seems fairly saturated with such stories of late…

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